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Quote by TheCompilerHey um.. can this and this be tagged with "broken"(it has many broken things in that house)? And should the ruins tag be tagged under 'broken' because.. it has many broken buildings?
The "broken" tag is rather ambiguous as of right now. I say just tag whatever you see fit, for now; we may
make sub-tags later.
There's a few things we could tag under broken; "broken glass", for instance. We just haven't given it a lot
of thought. >.>
@z827
If you had problems understanding the guidelines you should have said so and posted your questions here, I've asked you
time and time again what don't you understand in our conversation but all you've came back with are complaints.
But no offense taken, because the guidelines can seem too much at first but you don't have to study the whole thing -- it's not designed for that, it's more like "if you want to know more". That said I'd recommend to you and everyone who wants to report tags to read the rules and guidelines in the Tag-licious group and start from there, also I point out what someone did wrong in their report -- before going into the "full depth of tagging" how about you start by correcting your post by listing all the duplicates you've created and omitting the characters that don't have a tag.
In my opinion, I'd hardly call the guidelines "bomb of words" because they are written in short explanations (concepts) and exact instructions, the group content is even more so.
Let me go through each one of your sectors:
"Rules and Regulations" -- are listed in point form for your viewing pleasure in the Tag-admin group.
"Concept for adding new tags to an existent series / character / company" / "Concept for non-existent characters / series in the database" -- adding tags that is, again, something that's being explained throughout the group and guidelines, you can't just explain it in 1 paragraph without being vague.
The concept is simple: create tags for characters/series/games etc that don't have a tag, but be careful and check first because they might have a tag already but under a different name or alternative spelling -- in that case do not create new tags but ask for the "incorrectly names" tags to be renamed. For example what you did for Yuera by creating Yuela . But you can always ask duplicate tags to be merged with the correct tag.
Note: what you did by reporting "Wilfred Dion, Emilita, Suina..." and other Kamidori Alchemy Meister characters is nice but has no meaning because there are no tags to work with, we're not a Anime/Manga/Games database that has the sole purpose of providing information on something -- if it doesn't have a gallery item featuring it (wallpapers, scan, art) it doesn't need a tag and doesn't need to be reported.
I'll repeat again, link the tag you want processed, not the gallery item.
"Concept for adding aliases" / "Concept of Aliases" -- Here and the paragraph under "Aliases" in the
guidelines.
So Yuela would be added as an alias for Yuera as an alternative name, to avoid the creation of
further duplicate tags. Since you created a tag for what should have been an alias the tags have to be merged.
"List of Main Tags" now that I'm not sure what you mean, I
assume it's the primary tags, which also have a whole paragraph in the Guidelines under "Primary Tags" or do
you mean the tag types? "Series, Mangaka, Studio, Character, Game, ..." or the meta tags?
Tag types are just that - "types of tags", and serve to categorize the tags.
I'll say that meta tags are explained in the guidelines and anything beyond it's not relative to your
reporting.
So I ask again, what don't you understand? I'll explain it and tell you exactly what to do. I'll paint you picture with
words.
Like I've mentioned we've tried to keep the explanations short and to the point so as to not confuse members with a lot of words, but if someone needed a more detailed explanation he/she is free to ask us anytime.
@z827: alright then, challenge accepted. I will try to explain each and every one of the things you mentioned. However, I note that you still haven't said precisely what you're having problems with.
Seriously , reading through that guideline makes me feel like the time when I was
reading an annual stock report or a contract back when I was still new to the concept of such documents.
In what way exactly? Too short? Too long? Too much information? Too little information? Too formal? Too difficult to
understand?
Other image sites are generally more lax in it's tagging system
Yes, and I find them a pain to use because the tags aren't well managed, unlike here. Some even allow users to add
whatever tags they want without them being monitored, which results in 5 tags that describe the same character.
Concept for adding new tags to an existent series / character /
company
If the main tag (series, game etc.) is already in the database and properly set, yet you discover some gallery items
with, say, characters that don't appear on the main tag's page, just add them like you would any tag (on the right of
the screen, click the "Add tags" link and enter your tag). Make sure the tag isn't already added, sometimes
the tags are there but are in a misspelled/truncated/reversed (e.g. LAST NAME FIRST NAME instead of the other way
around) form.
Concept for non-existent characters / series in the database
Add them as normal Theme-type tags (using the method above), then head on over to the TagAdmin thread and request for
them to be switched to the proper tag type, like this:
- Type of tag you want it to be, instead of Theme -
LINK TO TAG (Mangaka/Studio name)
So, for Series, this would be (I'll be using an actual tag):
SERIES
DURARARA! (Suzuhito Yasuda, Brains Base)
You don't need to include both a Mangaka and a Studio, but it's highly recommended wherever possible.
For characters, this would be:
CHARACTER
Izaya Orihara (DURARARA!, Males, Short Hair,
Black Hair, Brown Eyes) alias Orihara Izaya
"DURARARA!, Males, Short Hair, Black Hair, Brown Eyes" are all parent tags, which means they will be automatically added whenever you add the "Izaya Orihara" tag to an image. Remember to never add tags that don't apply to all (or at least most) instances of the characters. For example, you mustn't add color tags to characters from mangas which only appear in color when on covers and the rest of the gallery is made up of black & white scans.
Concept for adding aliases AND Concept of Aliases
Aliases are alternate names for tags. They can be:
- for Series/Games/Visual Novels etc. : names in other languages than the one accepted as official in the MT
database;
- for Characters:
--- reverse names: the accepted format is First Name Last Name (e.g. Izaya Orihara - the reverse/alias would be Orihara
Izaya);
--- alternate egos (though these can be considered spoilers so it's debatable);
--- other spellings e.g. "Yuto" for "Yuuto";
- for other tag types: other names they're commonly known by (e.g. "Cogwheels" listed under an umbrella term,
Gears).
Aliases can be applied to a Series/Game/Character etc. using the following format:
NAME OF TAG alias NAME OF ALIAS
Which would be:
Gears alias Cogwheels
If you, by chance, spot a misspelled tag or think a certain name would be better, use the reverse version of the above
format. So, if I thought "Cogwheels" was a better term than "Gears", I'd report it as:
Cogwheels alias Gears
List of Main Tags
I don't know what you're referring to when you say this. You have all the tags listed here.
No offense but that guideline was like a bomb of words which makes little sense to
those whom aren't experienced in tagging.
I wasn't experienced in tagging when I started (how could I be?) and I naturally made my fair share of mistakes, but I
kept monitoring the TagAdmin thread and reading what the Elites/Mods posted concerning the correct format. When I was
sure I had it down, I started adding tags and came here to ask questions about the process. Concerning the FAQ, this
group is essentially the FAQ part, since you can ask questions here and see what is being discussed.
How about... making the guidelines easier to read for those whom are new to tagging?
Seriously , reading through that guideline makes me feel like the time when I was reading an annual stock report or a contract back when I was still new to the concept of such documents.
It could be more structured and detailed not to the state of which it would incur confusion onto those new into tagging - and particularly the generally more strict form of tagging in this site ( Other image sites are generally more lax in it's tagging system )
For example - the instructions could be split into several sectors for easier understanding and browsing purposes.
Rules and Regulations :
( Content - would be easier to read in point form )
=======================
Concept for adding new tags to an existent series / character / company :
( Content )
Concept for non-existent characters / series in the database:
(Content )
Concept for adding aliases :
( Content )
==========================
List of Main Tags :
( Content )
==========================
Concept of Aliases :
( Content )
==========================
FAQ :
( Content )
... Something like that.
No offense but that guideline was like a bomb of words which makes little sense to those whom aren't experienced in
tagging.
Quote by z827"Spamming"? =.=
Well , anyways , I guess I'd just post the name of the series here next time so it can be processed or something - I just need to name in the database to get my bloody review done though I'm still missing two character routes in the Visual Novel.
"Spamming", as in posting questions on the TagAdmin thread. The thing is, it's supposed to be a short thread with only reports, the rules of tagging are posted on this group, here and on the TagAdmin thread (a very short summary). Questions and other tagging-related debates go here, in this group.
Frankly, after everything that's been posted, I still don't understand what you're having trouble with (honestly, no irony). Adding tags? Renaming them? Adding links to your review? These have all been answered as far as I can see but there might be something we missed.
"Spamming"? =.=
Well , anyways , I guess I'd just post the name of the series here next time so it can be processed or something - I just need to name in the database to get my bloody review done though I'm still missing two character routes in the Visual Novel.
Quote by z827Right - so how are you supposed to add new tags or correct titles or wrong tags? :s
I need the title to be - at the very least - correctly named so I can do my review :o
If you want to edit/add tags for whatever reason you have to follow the rules like everybody else.
First off do you understand the notes I have written in the tag admin? Because you made all those mistakes.
Quote by Yamibou-Eve- link tags you want processed, as in copy the URL of THE TAG and paste where you would put the name and it will convert into a link when previewed or posted.
- do not post tags that aren't created, create them first IF there are images featuring that tag.
- check the aliases before listing them, no two tags can have the same aliases or name.
- but do NOT create duplicate tag (for "correctly spelled" versions or anything).
- report duplicate tags as aliases.
- if you just want to rename a tag write the correct name first and put the tag link as the alias.
And I'll add:
Clothes and accessories, classes like "Swordswoman", tags like "Twins" are not recommended parent
tags so don't list them.
You created duplicate tags for almost all of the items (characters, visual novel) -- that is wrong, and you are making
things harder for us.
Also I have explained in my comment what to do with tags you just want to rename, also see the example bellow for
"Kamidori Alchemy Meister"
Here is how you will report them:
Visual Novel:
Kamidori Alchemy Meister alias: Alchemy
Meister , God Captor Alchemy Meister, God Catching Alchemy Meister
Characters:
Yuela (Kamidori Alchemy Meister, Females, Black Hair,
Long Hair, Red Eyes) alias: Yuera
...
Do this for characters that have a tag (not character like "Wilfred Dion, Emilita" etc. that don't have a tag), find the duplicates.
If you have more questions or this still isn't clear post here again before spamming the Tag-admin again.
I'll just take it one step at a time.
How are you supposed to add new tags?
Actual process: on the right of your screen, click "Add tags", then enter the name of your tag.
Specifics (quoting myself from TagAdmin
thread):
Quote by pandemonium91To add new tags for Series/Games/whatever else in that vein:
1) check for scans of said Series/Game/whatever;
2) check to see if the Series/Game/whatever doesn't already exist in the gallery - it's a must to check for alternate names as well (e.g. the English name of a Series/Games/whatever );
3) add the appropriate tags (name of Series/Game/whatever, Mangaka/Studio etc to the image(s).);
4) come back here and report the new tags so we can process them (set them as Series/Game/Mangaka/whatever) - with links to the tags
(additions in bold, for extra clarity)
How are you supposed to [..] correct titles or wrong tags? I need the title to be - at
the very least - correctly named so I can do my review :o
Normal members can't do that, only Elites and Mods. That's why we have the TagAdmin thread, so we can ask someone who
can fix the tags, to fix them. Again, if the tag (title, name, whatever) isn't correctly spelled, report it in the
TagAdmin thread like this:
RIGHT SPELLING alias WRONG SPELLING
For the wrong spelling it is compulsory that you add the link (otherwise no one will go hunt them down for you).
Also, what do you want to write, reviews of series or descriptions for tags? Because the two are quite different matters.
EDIT: just caught another mistake of yours: don't link to the gallery items, link to the tags.
Right - so how are you supposed to add new tags or correct titles or wrong tags? :s
I need the title to be - at the very least - correctly named so I can do my review :o
Quote by pandemonium91Hey everyone~ I've been away for a while so I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but whenever I add a Series tag* (for example, Bleach), the child tags (Studio, Mangaka) aren't added automatically anymore. Is it just a bug I'm having or was the system changed?
* haven't tried with Games, Visual Novels etc. yet
Well I don't know about the other tags you've tried adding, but Bleach has its Studio and Mangaka parent tags set to manual, so that's why they aren't added automatically.
Hey everyone~ I've been away for a while so I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but whenever I add a Series tag* (for example, Bleach), the child tags (Studio, Mangaka) aren't added automatically anymore. Is it just a bug I'm having or was the system changed?
* haven't tried with Games, Visual Novels etc. yet
Okay, I'll request for it to be added as an alias^^
Thx Yami-chan^^
Yes.
Short answer is short XD
Question, do you add alternate spellings of a name as an alias or ask for them to be merged when they are the exact same name, spelled the same way, the only difference is they are spilt into two seperate words?
Quote by MisaSasekageFor some reason the main tag for this character: Misaki Kirihara is 'Glasses', because when you type in her name 'Glasses' shows up next to it instead of the series name, please change its main tag to Darker Than Black.
Also, delete this tag: Kos-m
Reports go in the Tag-admin.
Quote by pandemonium91
Quote by MisaSasekageAlso, delete this tag: Kos-m
I think it should be aliased to KOS-MOS, looks like someone typed it wrong.
Done.
Quote by SnickerdoodleNinjaDo y'all think it would be ok for me to make a character tag for Alastor from Shakugan no Shana? He's a pendant, but he talks and plays a pretty important role. Plus he's in a lot of scans and people might want to look for him for whatever reason.
I don't think anyone would look for it, and like you said I'm sure it appears in a lot of scans so it might get confusing.
Quote by MisaSasekageAlso, delete this tag: Kos-m
I think it should be aliased to KOS-MOS, looks like someone typed it wrong.
Do y'all think it would be ok for me to make a character tag for Alastor from Shakugan no Shana? He's a pendant, but he talks and plays a pretty important role. Plus he's in a lot of scans and people might want to look for him for whatever reason.
For some reason the main tag for this character: Misaki Kirihara is 'Glasses', because when you type in her name 'Glasses' shows up next to it instead of the series name, please change its main tag to Darker Than Black.
Also, delete this tag: Kos-m
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Quote by RaffachanCHARACTERS
Arpegius (Interstella 5555, Males, Short Hair)
Baryl ( Interstella 5555, Males, Long Hair, Brown Hair)
Octave (character) (Interstella 5555, Males, Afro Hair, Black Hair)
Stella (character) ( Interstella 5555, Females, Long Hair)
Shep (character) ( Interstella 5555, Males, Short Hair, Brown Hair, Blue skin, Spacesuit)I have to put "character" on Octave because when I wrote it, came out an "Octave(serie)", on Stella because it seems there is another character with the same name but not from this serie, on Shep because everytime I treid to type "Shep" it began "sheep", and after the fifth times, I gave up >.>
Sorry about this!Next time write the Series name in brackets, not "Character".
Also don't add tags that don't apply to every image (Blue skin) and clothes.Done.
Sorry again, I knew that it was wrong to write "character" in brackets, but I didn't remember how do it -.-
Anyway about the blue skin and spacesuit tags on Shep, I applied on him because I'm sure that he is always like this;
instead of the other characters that changed during the film.
Quote by TheCompilerCan I create a new tag: 'little match girl' for this scan and then ask to tag it under fairy tales?
btw, Welcome to the group Toshiro ^^
I don't think we'll be needing that... if she has like ~10 items, then ok i guess.
merged: 02-05-2012 ~ 04:23am
@everyone
I've added some info about reporting tags to be renamed, if it's still not clear ask :)
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